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utieh
07-02-2004, 12:04 AM
I'm thinking about getting a TLT1 very soon and found this recently...
they are 2 kits, one for the wheel base (+30mm) and another one for the width (17mm or 8mm).
the wheelbase kit is something like $45, a little bit pricey but it includes the universals...

TOBEE (http://www3.kcn.ne.jp/~tobee/)

http://www3.kcn.ne.jp/~tobee/TLT1-043.jpg
http://www3.kcn.ne.jp/~tobee/TLT1-013.jpg
http://www3.kcn.ne.jp/~tobee/TLT1-032.jpg http://www3.kcn.ne.jp/~tobee/TLT1-061.jpg


references and prices (Yen)
42890 TLT1-01 Aluminum suspension arm set Light blue 4500 TLT-1
42900 TLT1-02 Center universal joint 1700 TLT-1
42910 TLT1-03 Aluminum body mount 2400 TLT-1
42960 TLT1-04 long wheel base kit 30mm 4700 TLT-1
42970 TLT1-05 wide tread kit 8mm 2700 TLT-1
42980 TLT1-06 wide tread kit 16mm 2700 TLT-1

HO502cid
07-03-2004, 01:51 PM
Very interesting indeed... I am trying to find someone that stocks the kits but no luck yet. For all those linkages and the universals its not a bad price at all.

utieh
07-03-2004, 02:49 PM
try RAINBOW10 (http://www.rainbowten.co.jp/english/index.html) , Idon't think they have it in stock yet but I know that they will special ordr it for you since they carry Tobee parts.
They are very nice and ordered a few parts they usually didn't stock for me for the normal price.

Since I'm very lazy I'll probably buy both kits
I've heard that the drive shaft on the TLT were weak, but Tobee's material is very strong, it's the same they use on their SD renforced driveshaft (never broke one)

HO502cid
07-04-2004, 02:40 AM
It looks like there are a lot of linkages missing from the 42960 (30mm+ wheelbase kit) that come in the 42890 (Aluminum suspension arm set) but they overlap quite a bit, you would have 8 or so extra linkages if you bought both kits. That kind of sucks, because if you have some blue linkages you might as well have them all. :(

utieh
07-04-2004, 02:46 AM
the thin cantilevers linkages from tobee are very cheap, something like $5 a pair (same light blue), you would miss the 2 long thick direction linkages...:( that's pretty stupid from Tobee not to sell them separately..:rolleyes:
how are the stock ones?

HO502cid
07-04-2004, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by utieh
the thin cantilevers linkages from tobee are very cheap, something like $5 a pair (same light blue), you would miss the 2 long thick direction linkages...:( that's pretty stupid from Tobee not to sell them separately..:rolleyes:
how are the stock ones?

Thin chrome metal ones... :(

You would also be missing the thick linkages that go from the servo to the knuckles.:o

micrors4addict
07-08-2004, 10:12 AM
I just received a quote from Rainbow 10 on these parts. Here's the cost that they sent me. With the Yen to USD conversion rates these items are pretty expensive.

Tobee Craft
42890 TLT1-01 Aluminum suspension arm set Light blue 4500yen TLT-1
42900 TLT1-02 Center universal joint 1700yen TLT-1
42910 TLT1-03 Aluminum body mount 2400yen TLT-1 (need 2 sets)
42960 TLT1-04 long wheel base kit 30mm 4700yen TLT-1
42970 TLT1-05 wide tread kit 8mm 2700yen TLT-1 (need 2 sets)
42980 TLT1-06 wide tread kit 16mm 2700yen TLT-1 (need 2 sets)

Sub Total: 26500yen
Shipping (as below):
Grand Total: 26500yen + Shipping cost

Currency Converter:
http://www.xe.net/ucc/

SHIPPING:

Delivery method & cost (estimated):
A) SAL - 1080yen
B) AIR - 1860yen
C) EMS - 2400yen

A) SAL usually takes 2-6 weeks. (Not insured)
B) AIR takes 1-2 weeks. (Not insured)
C) EMS takes around 5 days.(Insured, Restricted delivery, Tracking Web
<http://www.post.yusei.go.jp/english/ems/index.html>)

If you do the conversions the parts will cost you almost $266.00. Unless I'm using the conversion page wrong.
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micrors4addict
07-08-2004, 10:17 AM
Correction to previous post. I received another e-mail from Rainbow 10. They said that you will need only one set of the followings items.

42970 TLT1-05 wide tread kit 8mm 2700yen TLT-1
42980 TLT1-06 wide tread kit 16mm 2700yen TLT-1

Which brings the price down to $216.00
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utieh
07-08-2004, 10:29 AM
You don't really need to buy every thing, I would just go for those:

42970 TLT1-05 wide tread kit 8mm 2700yen TLT-1
42960 TLT1-04 long wheel base kit 30mm 4700yen TLT-1
=
7400Yen=something like $68

It would just miss the steering linkages (as we said earlier) but I don't think the stock ones are that weak

The aluminium body mount would bend in case of crash, I prefer staying with the stock one, which would also help saving the body a bit and keep the car lighter

you don't need both 8 and 16mm widening kits, you need to choose one only

RealJDMman
07-08-2004, 12:22 PM
in the second pic does the truck have the 8 or 16 mm widening kit. it doesent look too impressive

utieh
07-08-2004, 12:28 PM
the other benefir of the widening kit is the material they used to make the driveshaft...bullet proof:D

HO502cid
07-08-2004, 03:05 PM
I'll let you know how the wheelbase kit and linkage kit are once I get them. ;)

utieh
07-14-2004, 04:44 AM
I've just ordered the Tobee parts (length and width kits)
I will wait until august 15th to get the new TLT:( :o
perhaps I will order the Penguin kit before too....:rolleyes:

micrors4addict
07-14-2004, 08:26 AM
I'm also waiting for the length and width kit to come in. My Penguin chassis got here yesterday and let me tell you, it's worth every single cent that I spent on it. A very well thought out and designed kit.
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utieh
07-14-2004, 08:32 AM
it takes 1-2 weeks for Rainbow ten to order the parts from Tobee then depending the shipment method it will take 3days (EMS) or 2 weeks (Priority Airmail).I think they will stock those parts since a few people are now interested.

On the penguin chassis kit how does the interlocking system works?Are they screw to hold 2 perpendicular plates together?

micrors4addict
07-14-2004, 09:31 AM
I had the parts sent EMS. They did tell me that it would take a few weeks to get all the parts in.

As for the interlocking system the two center plates that support the motor and center diff just sit in slots cut out in the side panels but when you install the front and rear aluminum crosstubes, the upper link suspension cross pieces, and the lower aluminum cross piece (the one the lower part of the shock mounts to. It makes for a very strong chassis. They also provide and additional cross piece that mounts next to the upper electronics tray to provide support there as well. The interlocing system fits very tight so ther is no play with any of the parts that don't bolt in.
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micrors4addict
07-14-2004, 09:47 AM
I think you can download the directions for the chassis from Penguinrc. If not, and if I wont get in trouble for it I can shoot you a copy via e-mail so you can see how it's put together. I will have to check with Brion to see if it's ok.
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utieh
07-14-2004, 10:00 AM
Thank you very much.

I think I will order the kit very soon, I'm just worried there is no chassis in stock!:D


Do you know if it is possible to mount some AE buggy shock without the cantilevers? I was thinking about monting them higher than where the cantis are placed, perhaps i will need to drill some new holes for that.

HO502cid
07-16-2004, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by utieh
Thank you very much.

I think I will order the kit very soon, I'm just worried there is no chassis in stock!:D


Do you know if it is possible to mount some AE buggy shock without the cantilevers? I was thinking about monting them higher than where the cantis are placed, perhaps i will need to drill some new holes for that.

I've seen the shocks mounted on the screw that holds the body post on... Worth looking into it, I don't know if they are AE buggy shocks though.

HO502cid
07-30-2004, 12:25 PM
Got my Tobee parts installed... let me know what you think.
http://yourmicro.com/albums/album07/aaa.jpg

http://yourmicro.com/albums/album07/aab.jpg

http://yourmicro.com/albums/album07/aac.jpg

accrx77
07-30-2004, 12:49 PM
Looks awesome man. I like what you've done to it. How much do you have invested so far? im thinking about getting a tlt but i not sure yet. im waiting for that other truck to come out to compare.

HO502cid
07-30-2004, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by accrx77
Looks awesome man. I like what you've done to it. How much do you have invested so far? im thinking about getting a tlt but i not sure yet. im waiting for that other truck to come out to compare.

I have close to $700 into my truck as it sits...

utieh
07-30-2004, 01:46 PM
it looks great!
which width kit did you order (17 or 30mm)?
I've oredered the 17mm one since I wanted something which would look more scale.

I will receive the maxclimber and the Penguin chassis probably next week, as for the Tobee stuff it will take a little more time...

the next upgrades are the wheels (HPI rims+Proline S-Truck tires) and a set of Yokomo MR4-BC threaded shocks.:D

utieh
07-30-2004, 02:11 PM
BTW, how does it handle now, did you ever try it on a dirt track?
I will get the Proline mini pin tires for this reason, it will be more a race/jumping set-up than a crawler.
How fast is it with the BL?

HO502cid
07-30-2004, 06:42 PM
Right now it is not geared for speed so although quite quick I know I could add a couple teeth on my pinion. I hate guesstimating speed but I am sure you could gear it for at least 30mph. I must admit though, I bought the BL setup because I wanted increased runtimes.

I did not purchase the width kit from Tobee, I bought wheel wideners from www.inetrc.com It comes out to be about a 38mm width change and I think that it looks perfectly proportionate with the wheelbase kit.

Which MRBC shocks are you purchasing? (front or rear) I want new shocks but can't decide on what to get. How long are the shocks you are buying? (stock is about 91mm)

utieh
07-30-2004, 11:46 PM
Wookie has the 1,02 AE shocks on his, I think they are the rear buggy shocks, but I'm not sure, I'm more a metric guy:D
R10 doesn't have the MR4-BC shocks so I'll have to order them ,I'll ask at this time

utieh
08-01-2004, 12:33 PM
I'm planning to replace the stock knuckles with some alloy ones.I've heard the TA04 or TL01 will fit.
do you know any company making them (Integy only has purple....mewant blue:D )...Square must be a little bit expensive....need 2 pairs:rolleyes: :D

HO502cid
08-02-2004, 02:20 AM
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=144_554_556&products_id=9027

Specific TLT-1 knuckles in blue.:)

Penguin r/c
08-02-2004, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by micrors4addict
I think you can download the directions for the chassis from Penguinrc. If not, and if I wont get in trouble for it I can shoot you a copy via e-mail so you can see how it's put together. I will have to check with Brion to see if it's ok.

You can download a PDF of the directions at this website:

http://www.penguinrc.com/directions/p2300.pdf

These are large about 2.5MB as there is quite a bit of information regarding installation.

Brion Sohn
President
Penguin r/c

utieh
08-02-2004, 01:27 PM
thanks for the linl;)

I've just received the penguin kit...the finish is great!!!can't believe they are som many parts...You've made a wonderful job Brion!!:D

utieh
08-02-2004, 01:37 PM
concerning the chassis, do you need to make a custom battery pack for it?
one of the 2 plates has 2 slots.
thanks.

HO502cid
08-02-2004, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by utieh
concerning the chassis, do you need to make a custom battery pack for it?
one of the 2 plates has 2 slots.
thanks.

You can run 5 cells or you can make a 3 cell hump pack for the 2 cell plate, that is what I did. Its really not difficult, just get an extra battery bar and solder the cell on top of the other two.

utieh
08-02-2004, 02:40 PM
I will try first with a 2x3 3000HV pack that I will re-solder, but it's really slow:( My actual GPs are for my touring car...doesn't like hump packs:D

Penguin r/c
08-02-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by utieh
concerning the chassis, do you need to make a custom battery pack for it?
one of the 2 plates has 2 slots.
thanks.

The reason for that is clearances with the motor, If you are using the standard TLT1 battery you can place it on the rear deck as normal.

If you are going to ue the Sub-C cells for the most even weight balance a 3 cell triangle in the front and rear would work best (2 cells on the bottom one cell on top) though you can also just have a Triangle pack in front with the 3 cell saddle in the rear. You can vary the weight balance by putting 4 in the rear two in the front ect... or you can be crazy and just run 10 cells (4 front/6 rear)...

Brion Sohn
President
Penguin r/c

utieh
08-02-2004, 03:02 PM
thanks

I will probably choose the 3x3 configuration, seems to be more logical(i'm a lil bit lazy too).