Anyone in South West Ohio Area?

[Nerg]

If anyone is in the Dayton or Greater Miami Valley area and looking start up a club / Has a Club / or wants to Organize racing please email me!

Local track closed, next closest indoor is 3 hours away!

[hobbyman_7]

Ultra Racing - Hamilton, Ohio - Northern suburb of Cincy - probably less than 1 hr from Tipp City. Go to Cincinnatirc.com and look under tracks. All kinds of racing all thru the week.:D

[Nerg]

Thanks, that helps!

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

I drove there from Columbus last Friday. VERY nice track there. Wednesday evenings they get their biggest Micro turnout. Let me know when you're heading down there, I'll use it as an excuse to go too.

Blake
www.2brainsdesign.com

[Nerg]

As soon as I get my micro rebuilt with the new chassis I will be heading down. I will let you know!

[MicroJunke]

Do any of you go regularly to the Hamilton track? I'm just south of Cincinnati, and looking to go there soon.

~ James

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

Whenever possible here...unfortunately, my wife and 2 year old daughter keep me from the track more than it should.

Blake

[hobbyman_7]

I race there every Wed. nite.:cool:

[MicroJunke]

What's their micro racing schedule on Wednesdays? and do they have races on Fridays too?


~ James

[hobbyman_7]

Racing starts at 6:30pm. 2 heats and a main. They also race 1/12 scale and TC on Wed. nites. They race trucks on friday nite.

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

What time does everything finish up? I'd be coming from Columbus so I've got a 2hr drive both ways.

Blake
www.2brainsdesign.com

[hobbyman_7]

Usually done about 9:30 at the latest. It really depends on how many total racers show.

[MicroJunke]

How many micro drivers show up on average? I need to get my cars back together, so I can get up there.

~ James

[RTolle]

I'm also there every wed. and there are usually 3 or 4 of us. But could be up to 6 or 7 if everyone shows at the same time.

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

Probably too late for anyone to see this but I'm going to try to race there tomorrow..Sunday 11/9. Hopefully there will be someone else there.

Blake

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

Only 2 of us showed up...sucked to drive 2hrs to turn around and come home.

Did get the micro SET UP! The RRX is awesome! Can't wait to race you all sometime. I'll have to try for a Wednesday evening.

Blake

[Nerg]

Sorry I missed it. I almost have my micro rebuilt on my new Penguin 3500lm chassis and we hope to make it down there on the 20th of November.

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

I think I heard they won't be open that weekend. It's the weekend before the big Cleveland race. If they will be racing you can most likely count me in.

If any of you guys racing down there want a body painted let me know, I'll cut you a good deal on it. I paint for a TON of people all around the world...haven't sold very many locally here.

Blake
www.2brainsdesign.com

[Nerg]

Actually the 20th is a Wednesday. I doubt I could ever make it on a weekend day since that is the busy time in my store.

On a side note, we are designing out own micro track and will
start construction as soon as a location is found. Cool design with mostly padded rails! If no location is found indoors we will have to wait until spring and build it in the parking lot next to my house.

[hobbyman_7]

Actually there are racing tomorrow the 13th and won't resume roadcourse on Wed.'s until Dec.4th. The're having a big oval race next week and the following week is Thanksgiving and most people are going to Cleveland.:(

[Nerg]

Ok, then I am shooting for the 4th of December.

BTW, whats in Cleveland besides the Indians?

[hobbyman_7]

THE BIGGEST On-Road race of the year for the last twenty years. Probably 450 entries. TC and 12th scale.

[MicroJunke]

hobby,

Do you have more information on these races? when? where?

Thanks... J

[RTolle]

Well the races are at Ultra Racing on Rt.4. There website is www.rccaronline.com

They should have all the info their but anything else is already on this thread.

[MicroJunke]

There was mention of races in Cleveland. I was looking for information on them?

Thanks RT, I plan to get up to Hamilton in the next couple weeks, but first, gotta get the penquin together with the new AV wheels...

[hobbyman_7]

If you wanna find out about the Cleveland race got to Trinity's web site. teamtrinity and the other stuff. There's a link on the front page of there site. It's full though. No more entries.
If your commimg up to Ultra, don't come until Dec. 4th. There racing oval and closed for Turkey day until then.

[Nerg]

I am still gonna try to get down on the 4th.

A question to anyone who has raced there. Do they run the race on the oval or road course? What is the track like?

Oh and what freqs does everyone run? I need to order a spare set of crystals cause 62 is the only ones I have right now.

[hobbyman_7]

We race 4 cell mod. 8 min. races. Roadcourse. Most are running Big Blocks w/4AA's, 12 or 13 pinion. Stk front tires, soft rears. Freq.'s are all over the map, better get a 2nd set.

[MicroJunke]

82 and/or 85

I hope to make it on the 4th as well...

[MicroJunke]

Are 4 cells the max allowed? I've been building these Micros, just never had them on the track in comp. yet.

[hobbyman_7]

Yeah. 4 cells max. any kind except lithiom. 4cells+bigblock=fast on a carpet track. If your an experienced racer 5 or 6, but thats really on the edge of control.

[Nerg]

Well I am glad I asked, means I will have to build a 4 cell pack.

On 4 cells should a HPI mod or TO Elite motor have the better speed? The RPM per volt is higher on them than the BB/Speed300 I think.

Oh well, motors are a quick change. At least I have an idea how to start setting the car up.

[MicroJunke]

I just ordered some 4 cell brick packs from Blind. Should be interesting....

James

[RTolle]

6 cells although a lot of fun for the experienced racer is too much power to make use of. I found myself having to turn down the throttle speeds on my radio to make the car easier to drive and my lap times only droped by about half a second going from 4 to 6 cells.

I would consider the track to have fairly good bite and forgiving to drive with a micro but a sedan or 1/12th scale will keep you on edge.

[MicroJunke]

I'm very inexperienced on the track... so I'm sure 4 cells will be more than enough for me....

[hobbyman_7]

We'll help anyway we can. We usually pit against the back wall.

[iwpro]

If Toledo is closer for anyone, there are races every Sunday there which is better for some people since it is on the weekend. They only require 5 to make up a class. So far there are a few of us that will be showing up with micros.

If we can get more people we can start racing in a 1/18th scale class, I think entry is $10 and it's at HobbyStop Raceway, if anyone would like directions go here - http://www.chemistry.ohio-state.edu/~mlufaso/rc/raceloc.html or let me know via this thread or through email - webmaster@iwpro.com.

I live in Ann Arbor Mi so it is about 30-45 minute drive for me. Would be nice to get more support for the micros going and have some real races. So far I have only just fooled around on that track.



Make it small make it simple make it a micro-
http://micro.u4c.com

[RTolle]

I just got off the HPI site and saw that Mike Collins TQ'd in japan for the hpi challenge race for micro's. He's been here a couple of times to race but I hope to see him at ultra again.

Mike if you read this I hope we can get a real race in next time you stop by without one of us having problems right before or during the mains.


Ryan

[hobbyman_7]

Just wanted to let you guys know RTolle and I plan on racin at Ultra on Wed. Dec.4th and Sun. Dec.8th. so we should have plenty of cars to run the class. I'm hoping for at least 6-8. :cool:

[RTolle]

I'll also be there dec.1 to practice along with hobbyman_7. Although there is no race scheduled. If anyone would like to get a little practice in with us feel free to stop by.

Ryan

[MicroJunke]

I'm planning on driving up tomorrow to check it out. My car isn't quite ready, but I may try it. I'll probably be there between 11-12. see you there...

James

[hobbyman_7]

MicroJunke - don't go tomorrow, they have a big oval race going on this whole weekend. That's why we said DEC.1ST.

[RTolle]

Tomorrow is still the snowbirds warm-up race if I'm not mistaken. So you wouldn't be able to run anyway. Hope to see you dec. 1

[MicroJunke]

My car's not ready to race anyway, I was just going to check it out.

What's the hobby shop like? Good selection of micro stock and hopup parts?

~ James

[hobbyman_7]

Yea, they have most stock parts and a lot of TO and HPI hopup parts, although hard to see, they are behind the counter.

[Nerg]

A friend and I plan to be at Ultra on the 4th. Not sure if he will race or not but I plan to.

After building 4 cell saddle packs for my car and relearning to drive it with 2 less cells, I hope to be ready to race. Not sure if I will have a big block in or not so I might have to struggle by with my HPI mod. Which on 4 cells can beat a stock motor with 6 cells.

Everyone can laugh at my silly 150mm RX-7. :)

Also Blake are you going to make it on the 4th? I have a body I might have you paint.

[RTolle]

If you were running a 6-cell hpi mod that's about equal to the big block with 4-cell so you may not have to change your driving as much as you think. If you need a big block Ultra should have some in stock but you may want to give them a call.

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

The Speed 300 is the same thing as the BB and it's about $13.

I probably won't be able to make it on the 4th to race. My wife is taking the LSAT on the 7th so I'll be pulling Dad duty. I'd still be willing to paint one for you. Mail me offline and we can get you setup. I might be able to drop it off there for you so you'll have it there.

I'm able to take time off during the days sometime and head out for some track time.

Blake
www.2brainsdesign.com

[RTolle]

I ran a couple practice runs at ultra tonight. It seems we have 2 more guys interested in racing with us. But the one said he needed more practice and the other is still getting his going. If these 2 ran also we'd have a pretty healthy micro class going.

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

Let us know on the boards when you're planning on heading out...I'll do my best to make it.

There's supposed to be some racing in Columbus, OH but it's still not solid. I'll post more info as I get it.

Blake

[RTolle]

I plan on going up tomorrow dec. 1. Hope to see you there.

[RTolle]

Are you guys going to come down this wed.? It seems I may have another promising micro driver ready to go also this wed.

[hobbyman_7]

Rtolle - I'll be there! :D :cool:

[Nerg]

The solder on my speed 300 may still be warm, but I will be there on the 4th. Gonna try to go down early and get an hour or so practice time.

[RTolle]

Just got word a local hot shot is going to show. After a couple week absence from the racing scene he might be back for good. Hobbyman you know who I'm talking about.

[hobbyman_7]

GREAT! The more people, the better racin' :D

[RTolle]

I'm ready to go today. Can't wait to race with you out of towners and test myself. Not to mention the threat posed by Dave and Chuck if he decides to run. I hope all the new guys that have been talking about racing with us do and don't get scared off if they can't hang with the regulars. Hobbyman, I hope to see some blistering runs from you b/c I know you've been doing some serious prep work on your IPD and Epic cars.

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

I can't wait to get up there and race you all too. I've got this RRX I have dialed in for Ultra. Maybe next time.

Blake

[MicroJunke]

My foams are on their way... and when I get my car together I'll be there soon.

What are your setups like? And does anyone here race on Sundays at Ultra?


~ James

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

I've tried but the last time I did, there was only 1 other guy with a micro...so I drove 2 hours to come right back home.

If you do try a Sunday let me know, I'll do my best.

Blake
www.2brainsdesign.com

[hobbyman_7]

Just got back from racin tonite. 7 in the micro mod class. Typical setup is ARM pan chassis, front oneway, ball or gear diff in rear, 4-AA's, Big Block motor. Stk front tires and HPI soft rears.

[RTolle]

Know that I'm not in school on sunday's I am going to try to start running also but it will be hit and miss. I do plan on going this sunday but I'll keep you posted.

Racing went well tonight. those that came down seemed to enjoy themselves despite the fact that they didn't get all the bugs sorted out untill the mains.

I was surprised that Dave and Chuck ran. For those that didn't know Dave went undefeited last season at Ultra but hasn't been having any luck lately. Chuck always races but it's rare for him to put down the 12th scale and pick up his micro not to mention this is the best he's ever run in micro. Hobbyman, I don't know where you came from but geez you got fast quick and your making me scared I'll start losing on a regular basis.

My setup is:

1.No chassis cutouts
2.No rear shock
3.stock front springs
4.rear gear diff set very free
5.front one-way
6.orange trc front tires/double purple rear tires
7.big block
8.upper deck is optional (i use a custom battery mount and no upper deck)
9.widest tire settings
10.ARM chassis

Notes: I use paragon to dope all the rear tires and half the front as a starting point and vary the amount on front for the track and driving style.

[Mclaren]

Hiyas, i came down tonite with Nerg and bought a car. I had a blast even with a rtr strait out of the box, and then thx to ryan and his kindness for puttin the mod engine in for me between races. i hope to come down often if i can drive down or get a ride down. It was a blast and everyone was very nice.

[Nerg]

Well my first trip to Ultra is over! I really don't know how to describe the experience. I learned more in 4 hours there than I have learned in the months since I got my micro. My car is also now very familar with every inch of every board there, at least I think I hit every one.

Most of all I want to thank Ryan for his help and advice. I did not realize what a micro noob I was until I saw him run.

I have started fixing the damage and will be back! Hopefully I will learn to drive and get to run with the big dogs instead of having a bash class made just for me! Oh well, at least I did not hear anyone laugh directly at me.

[RTolle]

For the 3 of you that came down. Everyone needs to start somewhere and sadly that somewhere is at the bottom most of the time. The reason nobody was laughing is because like you we've all had to pay are dues as the ones who are new. However, as good as myself, todd, dave, and chuck may be we all have much too learn as there are still many who can put us to shame.

[Mclaren]

hey ryan do u have aim or use a msging device that i could contact you if i have any questions etc. thanks

[RTolle]

I don't have any sort of messaging service but you can e-mail me at ryan_tolle@hotmail.com or send me a personal message on this site.

[Mclaren]

is ultra racing micros sunday? i might try to make a trek down by myself. if i can find a charger to buy by then. or at least another set of batts.

[RTolle]

I'll be there tomorrow. Ultra should have chargers there but if you can't find one you can use my spare. It's a tekin 112 bc. I don't normally bring it though so post a reply or e-mail me tonight sometime.

[Mclaren]

i dont think ill be able to make it down tomarrow but maybe next sunday

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

I'm planning on heading out to race Wednesday. Who else will be there? I might be bringing one other with me.

Also, if you need a body painted let me know, I'm going to be spending the first few days this week getting caught up...I should be able to work it out for you.

Blake

[hobbyman_7]

There will be at least 4 or 5 micro racers there, maybe more, so come on down.

[MicroJunke]

I was at Ultra last Saturday, kind of a spur of the moment deal, to practice abit. It was horrid, first my rear diff locked up with the AVM wheels on, then after slamming the woodwork, my steering alignment was shot.

The micro track is awesome, and the oval they have set up is pretty kewl for full speed.

I doubt that I'll be there this Wed. due primarily to the demands of my job, and secondly, I've got both cars broken down.

I'll be there as soon as I can... I can't wait to swap some paint...even if most of it is with the yellow rails....

Enjoy! James

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

It will get better, come on out, we can help you get it setup right. I'm dying to get my RRX back out there. Want to see how I'll do. Last time I went up there for practice I was dialed in.

Blake
www.2brainsdesign.com

[RTolle]

Blake, I hope we can present a challenge for you. I don't want to say I got spanked by someone who hasn't ran with us yet. At least not again.

Hopefully Dave and Chuck will run again to make for some really good, tight racing.

Hobbyman, I swear within 2 weeks you'll be kickin my butt. Dang you got fast quick. I think you were caught in a slump for awhile and then sandbaged for awhile and now you're finally showing us what you really got.

MicroJunke, c'mon out on a race day and we'll get your car fiqured out .

[Nerg]

Originally posted by MicroJunke

I'll be there as soon as I can... I can't wait to swap some paint...even if most of it is with the yellow rails....



Yep, got to watch those yellow rails. They kept jumping in front of me all night. Luckly shoegoo will repair cracked bodies.

I am building a small practice track in the back room of my store (not a hobby shop!) and plan to practice every day til I can dodge the yellow rails with ease. Using foam tubes to pad the turns, might just have to bring foam padding to Ultra!

As far as racing at Ultra, now is a bad time of year, too much going on and babysitters are too hard to find. I hope to make it down one or twice more this year, but plan to make it at least once, if not twice a week after first of the year.

[RTolle]

I can run every sunday now. So if you would like to race on sundays let me know because I'm not always there. I know Jim would run also.

[Nerg]

What time does Ultra usally finish racing on Sundays?

Who's gonna be there this Wednesday?

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

I'm in on Wednesday. I'll actually be arriving earlier that day to get the car setup.

Blake

[Nerg]

Cool, We should be down around 3:30pm. I still need lots of practice.

[RTolle]

I'll be there wed. too. They start at noon on Sunday's and are usually done by about 6:00

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

What are the rules for the micro racing? I just saw the flyer for the new years race and it says 4 cell micro open mod?

Blake

[RTolle]

The rules are pretty simple. There are 2 classes stock and mod. The only difference is the motor allowed. The only limitation is that you must run a 4-cell battery and a stock motor for the stock class or any mod motor for the mod class such as the big block/speed 300. All other items are open like chassis, tire, body, etc...

[GT Eye]

How come there are so many micro racers in Ohio (and in Cali)?
but not in NY...:(

[hobbyman_7]

Adding to the rules, I think that's any (4) cell less than 1.5 volts per cell.

[Nerg]

Heh, I think the classes have nothing to do with the motor, Mod class is for people who don't hit the rails and stock class is for the ones who do.

I know I'm in the stock class, who's with me??? :p

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

Nope...I don't think that's it. I love the rails. I thought they were there to help you change directions?

Blake

[MicroJunke]

My car use to be silver and blue... it's now yellow!!!!!!!!!

and I don't like yellow!! LOL :p

[Mclaren]

Ryan dunno if you'll see this but if you do plz bring your extra charger ill prolly need it, if u dont its ok :) Thanks.

[RTolle]

I'll bring it. See you later today.

[Nerg]

What? It only snows on Wednesdays? :confused:

Everyone drive carefull!

[hobbyman_7]

dr_hfuhuhurr - I forgot to ask you 2nite, was that a Audi R8 on your pit table getting ready to be painted? Sure looked like one!:D

[RTolle]

I think we had some good racing tonight. I bumped up the track record a full lap. Chuck was also extremely fast but had some bad luck. Todd, you'll get a 39 lap run in next week. Blake, you had some amazing looking bodies and I'd like to see that new R8 from ARM once you get it done.

[hobbyman_7]

Ryan - I sent you an e-mail about the R8.

[RTolle]

Yeah, I just got it. I checked the laps after the main. My fast lap was an 11.55. I guess changing to the kimbrough servo saver made a change for the better.

I think when that R8 body is availible I'll get it and another chassis and see how much lighter I can make it. Hopefully it'll shave an ounce or 2. Then we'll really see how good their chassis can be.

[Mclaren]

i had a fun time tonite. Im thinkin about gettin a bigblock within a week or so. I had the handling but i cant hang on the straits.

[RTolle]

clean your bearings 1st and you'll notice an improvement in speed not to mention longer run times. Once you can get around the track without hitting alot of boards then get a big block. Untill then it won't do you much good.

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

Had a good time as well...that drive home was brutal though. Didn't get back till 12:30.

I knew I shouldn't have changed tires for the main. Wouldn't have made that much of a difference...Ryan, you were on fire last night! Good racing!

Blake

[RTolle]

Glad to hear it Blake. I think that fancy chassis of yours needs some track time to get the bugs worked out. I do have to say it was nice looking though.

Myself and Mike Collins are racing on Sunday. He said he was going to bring down a couple of people also. If you can make it please do, maybe we can convert some sedan or 1/12th scale drivers over.

It should make for some really great racing as he was the TQ for micro at the Hpi world finals. Not to mention he was the first to really test me with the micro's. Hopefully niether of us will break like last time.

[MicroJunke]

It was a good time last nite... I have several things I want to work on.. like better way of changing out batteries and tires. I wasn't totally shocked at my mishaps... since that was my first time out racing.

Doyle, thanks for you help. Ryan, thanks for the tips. Blake, you have some awesome bodies there... I'd buy one, but I enjoy painting them myself. The F360 is definitely my favorite body after seeing your's and Nick's upclose.

See you guys on the track again soon...

~ James

[RTolle]

Come on out this Sunday. It promises to be some extremely good racing.

[hobbyman_7]

RTolle - I'll be there this Sunday racin'. Can't miss the rematch between you and the only guy to spank you this year.:D

[RTolle]

I'll be sure I at least give him a run. Glad to see your going to make it sunday. Is Josh going to run your IPD car?

[hobbyman_7]

Not yet.

[RTolle]

Have you sold that radio yet? Just think you could have a 3pj

[hobbyman_7]

MicroJunke - hurry back, enjoyed talking with you.

[RTolle]

As mentioned earlier. I quote:

Can't miss the rematch between you and the only guy to spank you this year.

I would like to refer you to the 2nd and 4th quotes at the bottom of my message.

[hobbyman_7]

Personally I like 2 and 4 the best. Going to bring the radio Sunday and check it out and make sure it works great before I sell it.

[MicroJunke]

Hobbyman - I enjoyed it too... I was mentioning that the JR XR3 was the radio I was getting under the tree... well, I innocently found a receipt for the Futaba 3pdf

How would you guys rate these two radios and their receivers?


I can't wait to get back up there, I've been looking up the high capacity AAs to hook up with...

What time does the practicing and racing begin on Sundays?


~ J

[RTolle]

Sunday practice opens at 10am and racing starts at noon.

I really like my 1700 energizer packs and Hobbyman and chuck really like the 1850 digitals. Best Buy carries the energizers. I know when I come off the track with 1700's I have 530 something seconds left at a 5 amp discharge which is pretty good considering the race is only 480 seconds long. I can only imagine the time left on the digitals.

I'm not a huge fan of futaba b/c they aren't comfortable to me. They are both excellent radio's however, especially for the micro or just about anything else for that matter.

[hobbyman_7]

I love the Futaba's, currently have 2 3PD's. Digital 1800mah at Walmart 1.25v. per cell $6.69 for 4. Best batteries , best deal.

[RTolle]

What's the deal? Blake your selling all your stuff. I was hoping you'd be running with us periodicly through the winter. I hope we didn't run you off? If we did tell us, I'd like to know why, after all you said you had a good time running with us.

[dr_hfuhuhurr]

Didn't run me off at all...I'm just taking a step back to re-prioritize some things. I'll be back, probably stronger than ever. :)

Blake
www.2brainsdesign.com

[MicroJunke]

Thanks for the info guys!

~ J

[RTolle]

So who all is making the trek down this sunday? The more the merrier.

[Mclaren]

i would but i dont have a ride :(

[RTolle]

Just got word Dave is going to run also. Now if I can just talk chuck into it.

[RTolle]

What time do you plan on coming Hobbyman?

[Nerg]

Originally posted by hobbyman_7
Digital 1800mah at Walmart 1.25v. per cell $6.69 for 4. Best batteries , best deal.

Yes but don't the rules say 4 cells at 1.2 volts?

[hobbyman_7]

Nerg - Ultra's rules , if you look at the flyer on their site, say 4-cell 1.5v per cell or less. By the way some great Micro racin goin on today. Track record was broken twice. I finally did 39, twice. Hope to see you Wed.

[RTolle]

Well, Mike now holds the track record with a 42/8.07 I believe. Now I need to step things up a bit for him. He had me beat flat out, but I managed an excellent start avoiding the carnage of the rest of the pack and hung on to it for the win.

Go Hobbyman, that 40 lapper is just around the corner.

[hobbyman_7]

Along with some excellant batteries that had you run all 11's except , what 1 or 2 laps. :D

[RTolle]

Yes, I forgot to thank my battery sponser HOBBYMAN_7. They were all 11's execpt for the one 12 on the 1st lap.

[hobbyman_7]

:) :D :) :D :) :D :cool: :)

[MicroJunke]

Hey guys,

Sorry I missed the racin today... family stuff going on.. kinda got in the way... anyway have you guys seen these DIGITAL 2000mA AA NIMH BATTERIES. I just won 4 off of ebay. Now, I just hafta learn to connect them up... lol :p

~ James

[hobbyman_7]

WOW , should be ballistic. The 1800's are. RTolle the battery site I was telling you about is onlybatteries.com. 2100mah AA's.

[RTolle]

I haven't seen anyone run them but have heard about them. They should be pretty quick and runtime definitly won't be an issue. Sorry you couldn't make it you missed some excellent racing in micros and in the other classes they run.

Although you don't know them, Eli and Lafasso ran mod sedan and put on a heck of a show. Those 7 turn mods are absolutely ballistic. Not to mention Jr's 12th scale performance. Undiefieted on the day and setting a higher track record in 3 out of the 4 races.

[RTolle]

Hobbyman you were right. At $4.19 a pop there a bit more pricey than those 1800 digitals. I nominate you to be the 1st to give them a shot.

[MicroJunke]

I remember Eli and Jr., they put on quite a show. They don't plan to run micros, do they? LOL

[hobbyman_7]

The price will have to drop for me to try them. Not when I can buy 4-1800 digitals for 2 bucks more.

[RTolle]

I could only hope they'd run, but every time I mention it to Jr. he laughs at me.:( I think he just doesn't want to be beat up on too bad. LOL

[hobbyman_7]

Unfortunately, I think most of the"hardcore racers" look down at the micro, as a toy and not a "real" r/c race car.

[RTolle]

Yea, you could say us micro racers are the outlaws of the racing scene. Some sedan guys can't stand us cause we can kick their butts with our micro's and the hardcore racers see the micro's as slow and clumsy as they run circles around us.

[Nerg]

Is anyone going this Wednesday? My last chance before the first of the year.

[hobbyman_7]

I'll be there.

[RTolle]

I will too.

Hobbyman, I just got the reply from terry at ARM and forwarded it to you. Also Mclaren, I think your the one getting the ARM chassis but I may be wrong. Anyway the reply I got has Terry's setup on it so if you want to check it out just tell me and I'll either post it here or e-mail it to you.

[MicroJunke]

Unable to make it this wednesday... but will try for Sunday.

~ James

[RTolle]

Racing went well tonight. Dave was suprisingly quick in the 2nd qualifier for being overgeared. Hobbyman, you just can't seem to break that 39 lap barrier no matter what you do. I nearly beat my previous fast run but fell just short, with a 41/8:01. Now I just need a 42/8:07 or better to reclaim the track record.

[hobbyman_7]

I've got 40 ready for the New Years Race!

[RTolle]

Don't get ahead of yourself. You need to run 39 before you even think about 40.

[hobbyman_7]

I did 39 twice Sunday!:D I think my worn out med. fronts held me back 2nite. Tried to run soft fronts , but they had to much grip. I bought some new medium fronts, so I'm set for 40.

[RTolle]

Sorry, forgot about that. But your not consistant with them yet.

[hobbyman_7]

I will be with the new front tires!:D :) !

[RTolle]

If you say so.

Is it just me or has this site been extremely slow the last couple of days?

[hobbyman_7]

You doubt "THE MICRO MASTER" ?! Yea it's slow except for us.

[hobbyman_7]

RTolle - you racing Sunday?

[RTolle]

Not sure. I'll keep you posted.

[Nerg]

Extremely slow!

I had a great time Wednesday and look forward to racing again after the first of the year, and after my repair parts get here! :)

Thanks Ryan and Todd for all the info and support!

[hobbyman_7]

No problem, glad to help.:)

[RTolle]

I found some pics of the BRP pro chassis. It looked really cheasy with the blue fiberglass everywhere but it's supposed to come out as a graphite version. The other problem is it's only being sold as a aftermarket upgrade and not a full kit. They also have it set up to run the 2/3A cells.

[hobbyman_7]

Where the pictures located?

[RTolle]

There on the hobbytalk forum here's the thread http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37931

But you must register in the forum to see them otherwise it comes up with some user error message.

[RTolle]

The pics on that thread were just posted and are of the full graphite version. It looks pretty sweet tricked out in graphite. I just may have to give it a shot. The only thing it needs are the front hubs and rear axle and motor by the looks of it. Which is ok because I'd replace their stock solid axle for a diff and the front hubs and axles are cheap. It is also set up more like the CRC rear pod than any of the others I've seen.

[hobbyman_7]

Yea - but I'm like Dave, it's not a Micro, just a 1/18th scale 1/12th car.

[RTolle]

How right you are. But a 12th scale is always faster than a sedan with the same driver.

[hobbyman_7]

Yea - it'll be like a 1/12th scale car racin a sedan, 1/12 scale will win. The Micro 4wd will have to much drag to keep up with the BRP, that's obvious. Should be seperate classes, just like 1/12th and sedan.

[hobbyman_7]

Might be fun to play with, but if you think we're scarin off the competition now that'll really do it.

[RTolle]

After looking it over it doesn't seem to be very incomplete. I think it comes with the rear motor mounts for a big block so the total price on the car would be about equal to the micro but you also get all that cool carbon fiber stuff and a car that doesn't need any hop-ups so it may be easier to get people into it.

Besides, I'm gonna run a 43 lapper if it's the last thing I do.:D Just to reclaim my throne atop the 1/18th standings after Mike killed me last sunday throughout the qualifiers.

[RTolle]

Hobbyman, I am racing sunday. What time are you going to be there?

I need to reserve a pit for the new years race also.

[hobbyman_7]

Not racing tomorrow, to much stuff goin on with the big days this Tues. & Wed. I'll probably go by there Monday and reserve a spot for New Years race.:D

[RTolle]

Sorry to hear it. Good luck with your christmas stuff.

See ya New Years Day I guess.

[RTolle]

ARM has their new Audi R-8 for sale now. It's on their website. I can't say it's the greatest body out in fact I like the others more.

Does anyone plan to race on Sunday?

Hobbyman-
Myself, Mike and Ed have been on Ultra's forums talking about ways to get more people into micro's. It'd be great if you could give us your opinions on the matter. Ed has brought up some issues that I hadn't thought of and makes a good point. As scary as it may sound, going back to running stock along with our current mod class may be a very good idea that could make it easier for newcomers to start running.

[hobbyman_7]

RTolle - the ARM Audi R8 body looks like it was trimmed to high, needs to be lowered and I think it'll look good. Yea I've been following the discussion on the Ultra boards, for some reason I can't get registared there. I agree with Mike and Ed, the way to get more racers is to go slower(less money to start) not faster. I'd be more than willing to run stock or 45 turn and our Mod. class to get more people racing Micro's. As far as racing this Sunday, I don't know yet for sure, but sounds good.

[RTolle]

So when do you want to start running stock again? Maybe either this sunday if you can make it or the next wed. that we race. It may be the perfect class for that ipd car of yours. I'm surprised that board won't let you register.

[hobbyman_7]

RTolle - finally got registared at the Ultra boards. As far racin stock or 45 turn, I'm ready. The sooner the better probably.;)

[RTolle]

Have you gotten your epic together yet, Hobbyman?

I was thinking about it and if we want to run a stock class maybe we should talk to Ed about selling a spec type 4-cell battery. The 2/3A cells would work great for either stock or 45 turn since they don't have the runtime of the AA's.

[MicroJunke]

What's the requirements of the stock class? stock motor only? or is there more ?

Thanks... James

[hobbyman_7]

MicroJunke - last winter at Ultra stock class was 4-cell stock motor, mod. was 4-cell any motor. RTolle and I want to rejuvenate the stock class. What are your ideas for stock class? I was thinking 4-cell, stock motor, HPI rubber tires.

[RTolle]

Is anyone racing tomorrow? At the moment it looks like myself and Jim.

Microjunke- the current stock class is basically just a stock motor and a 4-cell pack. Anything else is legal as far as I know.

[MicroJunke]

Thanks RTolle & Hobbyman,

I'm unable to make it tomorrrow. My brother is coming into town late tomorrow afternoon. He and I are going to attempt to go monday and practice if we can slip away.

I hope to run in some of the stock races this winter, just not sure if I could commit to weekly racing.

Can the stock motor be the HPI or the Team Orion Elite stock?

See you guys up there soon... J

[RTolle]

As far as I know any stock motor is allowed. The orion and the hpi are the same motor so it shouldn't be a problem.

Hobbyman, are we going to run stock also tomorrow or just mod?

[oskio]

What Mah cells are you running with the speed 300 to keep it running for 8 minutes?

chris

[RTolle]

I run Energizer 1700's but I'm the exception. Everyone else likes the Digital 1800's. Either or will give you plenty of run time, for example my brand new Energizer pack had just over 600 seconds of run time left at a 5 amp discharge and that means I could run 2 8 minute races on the same pack. As a side note we run 4-cell AA's.

We had some good racing action today. Dave finally got his car figured out and should be a force to contend with this coming wed night. I couldn't better the track record although I was close several times today. Hobbyman you've got to check out Dave's new radio it's so much nicer than his old one it's not even funny.

Who is going to run the New Years Day race?

[MicroJunke]

My brother and I are going to the track tomorrow for some practice time and to dial in my new 3PDF. And to work out some kinks in my stock entry...

Anyone going tomorrow?

cya there... James

[RTolle]

The track won't be open tomorrow. There going to repaint all the boards for this wed. If you are there early they may not have the track torn down yet but I would call just in case.

Hobbyman, Dave tried an elite coreless today and it was slow, I can't even imagine what stock will be like again. I'll run stock and mod at the new years day race if enough people show to run both.

[hobbyman_7]

Yea from what I've seen of the coreless I think it needs more than 4- cells to run poperly. As far as stock for this Wed. I'll run both if enough people show.:D

[RTolle]

The new Ratzas chassis is out. Can't tell what sort of rear end design he's got going but I bet it's like the Pro pan that Dave has. As a plus it's all in pretty blue and not purple.

Hobbyman, if we are going to run stock at all I may need to borrow a motor plate for the night if I don't have mine back yet. If you have an extra I would greatly appreciate it if you brought it with you for the new years day race.

[oskio]

I'll be there with my stock and mod. I'm use to 6 minute heats and am worried that my 1100 Nimh won't cut 8 minutes. I use to run my NiCd 600 2/3s for 6 minutes with about 20 seconds to spare. I'll try to put together a pack of 1600 AA but they' won't fit too well in my EXO. Anyone use 2/3 A cells? Which ones if you do?
Are most of the guys running the 150 wb? What bodies do most of you race?

Chris

[hobbyman_7]

RTolle - I'll have to see if can dig up my other stock motor plate, found one yesterday. If it's just gonna be me and you in stock I'd rather not run both though.
oskio - no one running 2/3a's that I know of now. We did have one guy race one week and he used them, but he was running the 1100mah purple cell's. Yes most people are running the 150wb with the Vette being popular. A number of ARM bodies also.

[RTolle]

Oskio, Where do you normally race that you run 6 minutes? You should be able to make time on the 2/3A cell's as long as there the 1100mah.

Most of us run the 150mm wheelbase b/c it's more stable and handles better with the big block. Just so you know the big blocks/speed 300 motors are legal at our track in the mod class. I currently run the corvette body but the ARM bodies are very popular and if Ultra carried them I too would have one.

I'm interested to see the epic run. Hobbyman has one but it's not together yet and no one else has been good enough for us to see what it is really capable of.

It'll be nice to have a new track layout for new year's so no one has homecourt advantage. Promises to be interesting especially between myself and Mike. Oskio, hopefully you can help mix things up a bit.

[oskio]

Don't get your hopes up :) I haven't run my micro out of my livingroom for about 6 months (my wife had our first child + I got into RC planes). I raced over the summer at CORCAR in Columbus and prior to that we had a track setup last winter at my wife's school. About 6 or 8 guys every Saturday. We all ran 6 or 7 cells and mod motors for 6 minute heats.

I've just spent a few hours reconfiguring my EXO chassis to hold AAs without loosing the ability to run 2/3s. I have the purples Hecells too. I'll try those and see if I'm still rolling after 7:59...:)

I think I know the guy you're talking about, were driving down together Wednesday. He'll be racing his TC3 though, gave up the Micro and went back to 10th...:(

Here is a link to a shortvideo (http://mrdeis.tripod.com/images/micro1.MPG)

Here is a pic of our track we used last winter.

[RTolle]

You shouldn't have any problems with us b/c that track looks extremely similar in size and layout to Ultra.

We run 4-cell in case you haven't seen that anywhere.l
I also fly. I've got a Dazzler but haven't flown since I snapped the main wing on my Giles about a year and a half ago. It's mainly b/c I normally went with my brother and a friend who fly heli's and the field we flew at outlawed the helicopters.

[oskio]

I've built three 4 cell packs just to come race there for a day. We'll see how well they work...:)

What pinion are you guys running on your speed 300s?

Chris

[hobbyman_7]

It's pretty split between 12 and 13 tooth. Basically driving style dictates which is best for you.

[RTolle]

We were running the 12 and 13 but with the new track tomorrow it could change.

[hobbyman_7]

Good point RTolle!

[MicroJunke]

My brother and I went up to Ultra yesterday and practiced around the oval with our micros... I ended up shearing off my stock front diff housing, and my brother broke two stock knuckles. I ended up shelling out for the alloy housing sold there... very nice!

I'm not certain I'll be ther tomorrow, but will try. Good luck to those racing tomorrow!


James

[RTolle]

Those diff housings are the best thing going. And believe me your money was well spent. As far as the hub carriers the aluminum ones are nice and about the price of 4 or maybe 5 trees to replace the stock ones. There not a bad idea either and they can save you some headaches down the road.

Microjunke, you wouldn't happen to have seen the new layout would you. If you did does it look pretty fast or tight and technical?

[MicroJunke]

The track was taken down while we were there, and the boards were being painted. We left at 7:15ish and no work on the new layout had started.

If I don't see you guys there tomorrow, Good Luck!

[Nerg]

So guys, how did the new years race go and how was the new track?

[hobbyman_7]

I will say the race went GREAT!, because I came in 2nd!. Mike Collins won. Unforntunatly RTolle broke in the A-Main. I warned you about braggin about how your car doesn't break Ryan. The new track is extremly FAST! Mike set new track record of 49 laps. We were running 14t pinions.

[RTolle]

I took myself out, I admit it. I would now like to divert your attention to the 1st quote at the bottom of my post.

The track is a lot of fun and like hobbyman said it's very fast.

[oskio]

I had a lot of fun trying to keep up with you guys. I've got some ideas and mods to try and want to come down again. I'll see if I can't round up some micro racers from Columbus and meet you guys for another race in Feburary

Thanks,
Chris

[RTolle]

Sounds good. How do we compare to the Micro racers in Columbus?

[DLHughes]

Hello All:

I see the micro racing has taken off in Ohio! I am nothing more than a thirty something rc nut that has been granted permission from his wife and 30 month old baby girl. I would like to join you all in Hamilton on Wednesday nights to learn how to race my micro. Could someone please give me some info on chasis options. I have been wanting one of those trick pan chasis for a while now. Or maybe its time to step up and build an all out racer. What are the track rules?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated and I will buy the pizza the night I finally get to race and meet you all.

Thanks
Dave Hughes
Cincinnati
Stock micro
7.2 volt nimh

[RTolle]

Glad to hear your going to come join us in the future. Track rules are pretty simple it's 4-cell stock or mod depending on the class. At the moment there are 2 chassis that have been proven to work well without modifications. One being the ARM and the other the penquin 3500lm. The ratzas pro pan also works after you modify the rear pod design. The all out racer you mention is far less involved than you may think. The biggest improvements are made in going to a pan chassis, freeing up the drivetrain and finally a motor. Most of the fancy aluminum hardware is a waste of money except for the aluminum front diff housing and possibly the front hubs.

Dave, your name sounds very familiar to me. Did you used to own a hpi mini and run down at AK Hobby about 3 or 4 years ago?

Almost forgot we now have the longest thread on this forum. I would like to congratulate all of you who made this possible, especially Nerg for starting this thread.:D

[hobbyman_7]

The only things I would add to RTolle 's suggestions would be a front one-way. I would also recommend AA batteries over 2/3a cells as we run 8-minutes and the 2/3a's lose there zip about halfway thru a race. Good brands are Energizer 1700mah, Ray-o-vac 17 or 1800mah or Digital 1800mah. They have plenty of run time and lots of punch.:D

[oskio]

Can we run BRPs with the micros at Ultra?

The columbus racers have a thing or two to learn from you guys. Of course we run outside and 6 cells...:)

[DLHughes]

Thanks for the advice and quick response:

RTolle, I wasn't running rc cars back then so it probably wasnt me. I use to race indoor electric trucks. Losi XXT. That was almost ten years ago, however.

Where is the best place to purchase the batteries?

I thinks I'll build a stocker and a modified that should keep me busy.

Last question: how to you get one of those cool little pictures by your name on the forum?

Thanks
Dave

[DLHughes]

Sorry:

One more quick question, Is anyone running a brushless setup in the modified class?

Thanks
Dave Hughes

[MicroJunke]

Anyone heading up to Ultra this Sunday? I've got my stocker in shape enough(crossing-fingers) to practice abit. Hopefully, I can race in the afternoon as well.

now if I could just get this wireless network to work... lol

~ James

[hobbyman_7]

DLHughes - Beat place to buy batteries? - good ole Walmart! Running brushless? - no one - to expensive. Cute little pictures? - there called avatars, look up at the top of the page under user cp.
oskio - BRP's?, Ed(owner of Ultra) says they are OK to run, but we've been trying to keep just Micro RS4's.

[Nerg]

Yep, Look at this mess I started!

Well, after the multiple crashes I had the last night I raced, I have rebuilt and am ready to race. I replaced everything that broke with aluminum including a new GH front oneway II. One thing I must note about the new oneway - with it, alum dogbones and alum knuckles my frontend is very tight and smooth. I hope this will help with my control problem and cut down on my eating the boards.

I also bought a set of aluminum rims, but don't know if I am going to run them or not. They look too nice to tear up.

[RTolle]

Microjunke-Ultra isn't open again until monday.

DLHughes-I must have been thinking of a different dave. You really don't need to seperate cars to run stock and mod. We run the same setup's in mod as we do in stock and it only takes a minute or two to swap motors.

Oskio-We'll have to make a trip up to columbus through the summer. I've always wanted to run the micro on pavement and maybe you can teach us a thing or two.

Hobbyman-I just got my one toyota body done. It's pretty sweet looking. I believe it's good for at least another lap or two. I attached a pic of it but it's not the greatest.

[hobbyman_7]

RTolle - Toyota body looks good. Your right it propably will add a lap or 2.
Nerg - I'm interested to see your GH one-way II - sounds like you have a bullit proof front end now!:D
Whats with all the STARS by our thread?! We must be good.:D

[RTolle]

I saw the rating system at the bottom of the reply box and just had to use it.

[oskio]

I've heard some guys are trying to buy an AMB system and start carpet racing Micros somewhere in Columbus. I'll let you guys know if they do. I'll tell you now though they'll run 6 cells...:)

Keep checking www.corcar.com for updates on the 2003 schedule. They have a good forum as well. I'll try to set something up with you guys to come up for a Sunday race.

thanks,
C

RTolle, nice Toyota...:) They're my favorite.

[RTolle]

Oskio- the corcar site is down. Do you have any word on when it will be working again? Also six cell isn't a problem, I've been wanting to run it for some time now but no one else wants to. I think I may do some testing out behind Ultra in the summer on their asphalt track. It's roughly 100 by 40 and should give me some idea on an asphalt setup. Since I'll have enough gear for that layout it should be a very good reference.

You'll have to let us know about the possible carpet track.

Hobbyman-I've been working on the micro. I had the chassis off and drilled a bunch of holes on the sides to lighten it up. Don't think it really did anything but with the foams I'm going to order tomorrow along with a new motor and the toyota body, I hope to give Mike a run.

Nerg- the only thing that can decrease the amount of time spent meeting the boards is practice. I've been running weekly for at least six years and Hobbyman was an owner of Right Choice for about 10 years before I even started. Chuck, Dave, Mike, Hobbyman and myself have been envolved in R/C a long time and paid our dues. Now it's your turn.

[RTolle]

Hobbyman - I found the TRC part #'s for double purple rears and orange fronts. I was going to give ultra a call tomorrow and see if I can have them for wed. If you want some I'll have them order you a pair too when I call.

[hobbyman_7]

Yea sounds good have them order me a set too.

[oskio]

The CORCAR site will be up closer to the season opening. Not sure why it is down though.

Anyone tried running their micro in 2wd at Ultra? We had one guy do it last winter up here and with the right compounds he would smoke us.

C

[RTolle]

Oskio-I've tried it but found it impracticle and hard to control. If I was going to go 2-wheel drive I'd buy the brp car.

Who is racing this wed. night?

[hobbyman_7]

I'll be there and maybe Josh, not sure.

[RTolle]

Josh? Sounds good. Looks like we'll have another fast driver after he sharpens up from not running for a couple of years.

[RTolle]

I think I may be going up tomorrow to practice. After the whooping I recieved last week I think I need it. If anyone else is interested please reply.

Hobbyman- there ordering the tires but aren't going to order untill wed. morning.

[Nerg]

Ok, getting ready for Wednesday here and need help with set-up. Ryan, are you running stock, mod or both? I need to figure out which motor to put on and what pinion gear to use. I don't think I want to try to run both stock and mod this week, maybe after I get use to the new track layout.

I am gonna try to go early Wednesday and get in some practice.

[MicroJunke]

Nerg, great questions that I need answers to as well. Currently, I have my stock setup ready to go. My plan is to run with the Elite (so I can make it around without hitting anything, hopefully) so switching out will be easy. Same question, what pinions for Stock and Mod?

I may just run stock as well until I get the hang of things. Hopefully, I'll see you guys Wednesday.

J

[RTolle]

We're going to run both classes. But, as long as there are enough people myself and Hobbyman will stay out of stock b/c we feel it is a good place for you guys to develop your skills. As far as gearing run the biggest pinion you can find. We wound up running 14t last wed. for mod, so at least that for stock.

I'm not sure if we mentioned it before but the goal of the stock program is to get new people into it. With that said I consider it the learning class for those who aren't ready for full blown mod. Myself and Hobbyman will stay out of it as long as the class will stand on it's own. If people are needed to run stock we will run the stock class. The other reason is so that you guys who are strugling in mod have a class where you can win without the threat of myself, hobbyman, Dave, and Chuck. Another reason is we had a decent crowd of stock guys last year but from what I understand they were run off b/c some of the mod guys would run every now and then and piss off everyone else to the point they just stopped showing up.

[MicroJunke]

I'm not afraid... (pointing out your first quote)

Hope to see you guys there...

[RTolle]

I'm glad to hear you're not afraid Microjunke. The problem is so many are.

[Nerg]

Ok I need a point clarified here. Stock means stock motor that came with kit, right? Orion elites and HPI mods would be mod class, right?

The point of stock is to keep costs down and keep the cars slow and equal, right?

Help me here Ryan and Todd!

[hobbyman_7]

Stock means stock motor that came with kit or the Orion stock motor, which is the same as the one in the kit. Orion Elite Coreless and HPI Modified are MOD. class. The point of stock is slow cars (less or no breakage) and nothing extra needed to run the class, just buy the car and run.

[Nerg]

Thanks Hobbyman! I am ready for stock. And I was suprised at how quick my car is with a stock motor and 14t pinion. Well, I will see how it runs. I am bringing my bigblock just in case but I don't think I can swap motors in the 2 minutes between races.

[RTolle]

Well I went up to practice today. Dave showed up to get his car figured out. Hobbyman, I think he'll be wanting your foam setup as he got a set but couldn't find anything to work but that was before he noticed his pro pan chassis mod had come unglued.

I found that the toyota body is roughly a full lap faster than the corvette. Definitely a plus.

Hobbyman-Ed only ordered one set of foams b/c I had them both under my name and he thought the order was written wrong.
Of course they probably wouldn't have been here this week anyway but we'll find out tomorrow.

Also for the stock class it looks like we'll have one more entry tomorrow.

Nerg you hit it dead on for the point of the stock class. Last year when the micro's 1st came out we ran stock but it was more like a hack fest b/c you couldn't damage anything or throw someone into a wall which made for some extremely close racing since you could run an entire race within a foot of the car in front of you. Of course running the half hour mains allowed for enough time to catch each other. The rule of thumb for your line selection was basically if you couldn't see the car behind the board you were running a tight enough line.

[Nerg]

Originally posted by RTolle
I found that the toyota body is roughly a full lap faster than the corvette. Definitely a plus.



I know this is silly but how can a body make that much difference? Even if you are changing the wheel base and wheel width.

[RTolle]

Aerodynamics can make a huge difference. Although not as noticeable on the micro a change of body style on the sedan is very noticeable. For example the dodge stratus is a very nuetral body but a honda accord has more front end down force making the car feel very twichy or loose. Another example can be found on the oval cars. There is a reason why everyone runs the big rear wings vs. the little dinky ones that come with the body.

[collins77]

Hey, Look! I'm on the forum! RTOLLE...I Own You! HE HE:D

[RTolle]

Yes master.:rolleyes:

You coming tonight?

[RTolle]

Collins, you were once the teacher and I the student. Now the student is ready to teach the teacher a thing or two.:p

Your record went fell by a full lap tonight as it is now a 50/8:09.

We also had a good stock turnout with the youngest of the bunch taking home the win.

[RTolle]

I've got a question for Nerg. When are you going to put up some racing pics and racer rides on your site?

[Nerg]

Originally posted by RTolle
I've got a question for Nerg. When are you going to put up some racing pics and racer rides on your site?

Send them to me and I will make the pages for them!


Ack, I got beat by a ten year old! He was a fast ten year old!

[MicroJunke]

Nerg,

Don't feel bad, I got beat worst than you did by the same 10 yr old. That was a great time tonite! Can't wait til Sunday now! (hoping I can make it)

J

[RTolle]

Don't feel to bad guys.

Who all is racing sunday then?

[hobbyman_7]

It was a very GOOD time 2nite. 5 racers each class! You guys runnin stock need to make sure your drivetrain is as free as possible! and lighten everthing.

[collins77]

Ryan,

Where'd you find 3 laps? I'm done.

[hobbyman_7]

He finally got smart and is running an ARM Toyota body, but he also switched to foams all around. He was FLYIN!:D

[collins77]

That's it! I'm drilling out the chassis, the wheels...heck...I'm going to drill holes in the batteries. How'd you do hobbyman?

[RTolle]

I think a 51 lapper isn't out of the question either. Since I've got a new motor and bearings on the way and after I get the foams dialed in a little more and build up some confidence in there consistency it'll be even faster. Collins77 the more we push each other the faster we'll go. The question is how do we compare to others on a larger national scale. It'd be nice to go run against the brp cars in Cleveland once and see where we place. Also it may be time to start developing a carpet racing chassis for penquin. As for batteries from what I've heard you can drill a small hole in batteries and inject them with something to get more power out of them. Of course after one run the battery is no good.

I believe Hobbyman ran a 46 in the main which is the same as my best rubber tire run so I'd say he was moving pretty good.

[hobbyman_7]

Yes I was very pleased with my 46 in the main, that's 3 laps faster than I did New Years Day! Now all I need is 3 more laps next week and I'll still be one behind you two.:D

[RTolle]

Don't worry, those foams will definitly pick you up a couple of laps.

[RTolle]

So Collins77 you've had a full day now to mod your car so what have you done so far?

[collins77]

Well, I went to work, came home, had a couple of Gentlemen Jack and Cokes, watched a movie, and walked passed my micro on the way to bed, where it's been sitting since Jan. 1. Work on cars?!? I haven't touched it. I'll just run 4 cells next time.

[RTolle]

Ya know everyone says that they don't work on their cars untill they get beat.

Have you ran micro anywhere else besides Ultra and if you have how do others compare to us? I've been wondering for a while and would like to make a road trip up to the Gate in cleveland at some point and see how we compare to the guys up there.

[collins77]

You're right...but I didn't get beat ;) --got the timepieces to prove it. But seriously, Racing is like golf...There's always someone you can beat, and there's always someone that can beat you. A carpet micro is a world away from a pavement micro...so I can't say that success on one would transfer over to the other. If one makes no mistakes during an 8 minute race, then there's a good chance he or she will be up near the front. Speed-wise, the Big Block and 4 cells puts the Micro on par with the BRPs and their stock motor. In the hands of Bud or a few of his factory-driver types, the BRP would be a tough nut to crack for an equally skilled Micro driver. Rotational weight is an issue etc...

[RTolle]

I'm sure it would be a tough challenge to beat the brp since it is basically a pan car vs. a sedan. But it would still be fun to try and you must remember that they run 6 cell in those brp cars. You're right about micro's being like golf but it seems to me that when we're both there no one knows who is going to win untill someone does. you're also right about not being beat yet or at least on this layout.

[RTolle]

Who's racing Sunday?

[DLHughes]

Hello RTolle:

What time will you be running on Sunday? Will they be racing Micros or will some other type of event be taking place? I've been potty traing the daughter for the past three days as my wifes grandmother passed away. I could use a break at the track! Could you please provide directions from the Cinci area to the Hamilton track, or were you talking about Columbus track?

Thanks
Dave Hughes

[RTolle]

We start at noon at Ultra in Hamilton. Sunday is a roadcourse day so there'll be sedan, 1/12th scale and micro. You'll find directions on there website www.rccaronline.com

Hope to see you there tomorrow.

[RTolle]

We had some pretty good racing today. In micro we only had 3 people so it wasn't the biggest turnout. A new track record has been set of a 50/5:02 and an even faster run although not elligible for track record a 51/5:04 was run. I don't think a 52 lap run is out of the question now.


The best race of the day was in the 19t sedan class. Eli, Rob and some other guy battled it out for the full race.

[hobbyman_7]

RTolle - who was there besides you? Jim and who else?:D